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Successfully thrown out of jury duty - Dionysus - 02-11-2011 12:26 PM
This is a blast from the past, but I consider it a "success story:"
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Re: Successfully thrown out of jury duty - boyntonstu - 03-16-2011 07:49 PM
The EASY way.
When the jury pool is about to be sworn in ask:
Is this a request or is this an order?
No one has the authority to force you to swear in. (Including the military draft)
You will be allowed to go home and you will not have to even see a judge.
I did this last week and I was the only person sitting when everyone else was standing with their right hand raised.
Re: Successfully thrown out of jury duty - NonEntity - 03-16-2011 08:35 PM
boyntonstu Wrote:The EASY way.
When the jury pool is about to be sworn in ask:
Is this a request or is this an order?
I've never actually done this as I've never been in the position to have that choice, but I've always thought I'd refuse to swear to anything on the basis that if you can't trust me then swearing doesn't change that, and if you can trust me then swearing is superfluous.
A sociopath is the only one who gains by the practice of swearing in, as he (generally, but sometimes sheez) could care less whether he was lying or not as long as it furthered his immediate goal, whereas an honest person will be honest regardless.
- NonS
Re: Successfully thrown out of jury duty - boyntonstu - 04-03-2011 07:02 PM
NonEntity Wrote:boyntonstu Wrote:The EASY way.
When the jury pool is about to be sworn in ask:
Is this a request or is this an order?
I've never actually done this as I've never been in the position to have that choice, but I've always thought I'd refuse to swear to anything on the basis that if you can't trust me then swearing doesn't change that, and if you can trust me then swearing is superfluous.
A sociopath is the only one who gains by the practice of swearing in, as he (generally, but sometimes sheez) could care less whether he was lying or not as long as it furthered his immediate goal, whereas an honest person will be honest regardless.
- NonS
If you are not sworn in, you are not a "juror".
If Obama had not sworn in, he would not be president. If only!
Re: Successfully thrown out of jury duty - fsk - 04-03-2011 08:11 PM
I'm not sure if you should be bragging about getting thrown out of jury duty.
I'd be much more impressed by "I got picked for the jury, nullified, and kept an innocent person out of jail."
The last time I was called, I was planning to try to get out of it. It was irrelevant, because I was dismissed without being questioned.
It's rough. Why should I give up my salary, while serving on jury duty? On the other hand, I'd like to try to keep an innocent person out of jail, if it's a nullification-relevant trial.
Re: Successfully thrown out of jury duty - Dionysus - 04-03-2011 08:21 PM
fsk Wrote:It's rough. Why should I give up my salary, while serving on jury duty? On the other hand, I'd like to try to keep an innocent person out of jail, if it's a nullification-relevant trial.
It was not a nullification-relevant trial. It was civil-- corporate negligence. If it had been a drug offense or some other victimless "crime," I might have just piped down and taken a wait-and-see approach. But since it wasn't, I was pretty desperate to get out of there-- almost on the verge of a panic attack (which I've never had). That place was evil, I tells ya.
Re: Successfully thrown out of jury duty - NonEntity - 04-03-2011 08:23 PM
fsk Wrote:I'm not sure if you should be bragging about getting thrown out of jury duty.
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It's rough. Why should I give up my salary, while serving on jury duty? On the other hand, I'd like to try to keep an innocent person out of jail, if it's a nullification-relevant trial.
I think the main issue is one of choice. Am I being forced to do something regardless of my own personal desires? If so, the end result is irrelevant. Ends and means, ya know? How much justice to you think is being obtained by jury members who are there at the point of a gun and being paid less than what they put into the parking meter?
- NonE