Social security no. and passports?

[crazy in crazyland]

I am getting my passport and need to fill out the application tonight and tomorrow morning.

Its telling me that I need to supply my SS number and if I don't the IRS will fine me five hundred dollars

I quit using the number over ten years ago and my kids don't have the number either. I am a firm believer that the government uses this number to track people. I also believe that this number is not mine but their number as I did not create it. The law they claim requires me to give them their number is 26 usc 6039E

Does any one have any information or suggestions?

[brianroberts]

crazy in crazyland Wrote:I am getting my passport and need to fill out the application tonight and tomorrow morning.

Its telling me that I need to supply my SS number and if I don't the IRS will fine me five hundred dollars

I quit using the number over ten years ago and my kids don't have the number either. I am a firm believer that the government uses this number to track people. I also believe that this number is not mine but their number as I did not create it. The law they claim requires me to give them their number is 26 usc 6039E

Does any one have any information or suggestions?

Here's a link to the statute: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00006039---E000-.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/ ... E000-.html</a><!-- m -->

Notice Regarding Disclosure of Social Security Number
Section 7 of Public Law 93-579, as enacted by the Congress of the United States provides that:
(a)(1) It shall be unlawful for any Federal, State or local government agency to deny to any
individual any right, benefit, or privilege provided by law because of such individual's refusal to
disclose his social security account number.
(2) the provisions of paragraph (1) of this subsection shall not apply with respect to -
(A) any disclosure which is required by Federal statute, or
(B) the disclosure of a social security number to any Federal, State, or local agency
maintaining a system of records in existence and operating before January 1, 1975, if such
disclosure was required under statute or regulation adopted prior to such date to verify the
identity of an individual.
(b) Any Federal, State, or local government agency which requests an individual to disclose his
social security account number shall inform that individual whether that disclosure is mandatory
or voluntary, by what statutory or other authority such number is solicited, and what uses will be
made of it.
18 USC Sec. 242 and 42 USC Sec. 1983 provides that:
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State,
Territory, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or
laws of the United States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; 42 USC Sec. 1983
further provides that a violator shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper
proceeding for redress.
42 USC Sec. 408 provides that:
Whoever ... (8) discloses, uses, or compels the disclosure of the social security number of any person in violation of the laws
of the United States; shall be guilty of a felony and upon conviction thereof shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned for not
more than five years, or both.
Served on name of person served , an agent or employee of
name of business or agency was informed of the law enter date
at time and is fully aware of the Congressional restriction placed upon him/her and the
penalties he/she may suffer for violating the law by requiring me to provide a social security
number which I may not have nor am I required to provide, or am providing under duress.
Signed: your name and signature Witnessed: name and signature

If you pm your email, I can send you a form in PDF, Citizen’s Assertion of Legal Right
to withhold disclosure of SSN
Public Law—93-579 (Section 7)

[crazy in crazyland]

Thanks, but now I'm even more confused, because it talks about coming to the US and I see nothing about penalties or where it ties into the CFR etc or even which enforcement regulations are.

[Dolomyte]

Also Title 26 is not law (legislative construction)

Title 26 Section 7806 (b) Arrangement and classification. No inference, implication, or presumption of legislative construction shall be drawn or made by reason of the location or grouping of any particular section or provision or portion of this title, nor shall any table of contents, table of cross references, or similar outline, analysis, or descriptive matter relating to the contents of this title be given any legal effect. The preceding sentence also applies to the sidenotes and ancillary tables contained in the various prints of this Act before its enactment into law.

[Pdizzle]

Dolomyte Wrote:Also Title 26 is not law (legislative construction)

Title 26 Section 7806 (b) Arrangement and classification. No inference, implication, or presumption of legislative construction shall be drawn or made by reason of the location or grouping of any particular section or provision or portion of this title, nor shall any table of contents, table of cross references, or similar outline, analysis, or descriptive matter relating to the contents of this title be given any legal effect. The preceding sentence also applies to the sidenotes and ancillary tables contained in the various prints of this Act before its enactment into law.

It's simply stating that you should not infer anything from the way the provisions are grouped. It's not saying the provision doesn't carry the force of law.