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Newbee juror
07-21-2012, 11:06 AM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2012 11:08 AM by Dionysus.)
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RE: Newbee juror
I'll reply to this since it's right in my "wheelhouse."

Send them the following letter (registered) and watch the fun start:

Quote:*************
Chicago, IL *****
July 06, 2010

Jury Administration
R. J. Daley Center
50 W. Washington St.
Room 1000
Chicago, IL 60602


Dear Sir or Madame:

I received your official jury summons in the mail. It included a form that I was instructed to fill in and bring with me when I reported for jury duty. I have questions about this form.

There is a space on the form for me to sign and date it. However, I have the following questions before I do so:

- Is my voluntary signature a necessary element to a properly completed jury questionnaire?

- Is my signature considered voluntary if offered under coercion and threat of incarceration?

In addition, one of the questions on the form asked if I was a citizen of the United States. I did some research and found the following:

- Citizenship is membership in a political society, and implies a duty of allegiance on the part of the member and a duty of protection on the part of the society. These are reciprocal obligations, one being a compensation for the other.
Luria v. United States, 231 U.S. 9 (1913)

- The Constitution is a charter of negative liberties; it tells the state to let the people alone; it does not require the federal government or the state to provide services, even so elementary a service as maintaining law and order.
Bowers v. Devito, 686 F.2d 616 (7th Cir. 1982)

So, if the Constitution does indeed not require the state to provide law and order, then it doesn't require them to do anything. And logically, if there is no obligation to protect, then there is no reciprocal obligation of allegiance. Therefore, since there is no obligation of allegiance, I don't believe I am a citizen, but I didn't want to mark "No" for the answer until I could clear up my confusion.

Please respond to my concerns regarding your summons and we can proceed from there. Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,



**********
"Juror number" ********

There used to be a thread on here that detailed my "adventure in jury land," but it seems to be lost to posterior. Eh, what ya gonna do???

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But weak enough not to choose it
He's wise enough to win the world
But fool enough to lose it
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Newbee juror - gearheadmm - 07-20-2012, 10:06 PM
RE: Newbee juror - Dionysus - 07-21-2012 11:06 AM
RE: Newbee juror - NonEntity - 07-21-2012, 04:29 PM
RE: Newbee juror - bucky - 08-07-2012, 07:49 PM
RE: Newbee juror - gearheadmm - 07-21-2012, 11:33 PM
RE: Newbee juror - eye2i2hear - 07-22-2012, 06:27 AM
RE: Newbee juror - Dionysus - 07-22-2012, 08:34 AM
RE: Newbee juror - gearheadmm - 07-22-2012, 07:49 PM

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