Gun Control Anyone?

[Marc Stevens]

This happened 4 days ago and if JT did not call and tell me about it, I doubt I would have heard about it.

Police: 14-year-old shot intruder in Laveen home

by John Genovese and Haley Madden - Jun. 22, 2012 10:21 PM
The Arizona Republic-12 News Breaking News Team

A 14-year-old boy shot an intruder at a Laveen home near 55th and Minton avenues Friday afternoon, police said.

The boy was home with his three siblings, ranging in age from 8 to 12, when he saw a woman they did not recognize at the front of the house around 4:30 p.m. She began pounding on the door, said James Holmes, a Phoenix police spokesman.

The boy went upstairs and got a handgun, police said. A man with a rifle had forced his way into the home. He aimed the gun at the boy, and the boy shot him, police said.

The boy and his three siblings left the house and went to a neighbor's house, where the boy called police and his father, Holmes said.

"He took an action that no police officer, certainly no one in our community, wants a 14-year-old to have to take," Holmes said. "And yet he's safe, his siblings are safe, and so now we have to figure out why this happened and why these people were there."

Police were unsure whether the man and woman were the only two involved. There may have been other accomplices, police said.

The man was taken to St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center in critical condition, according to Jonathan Jacobs, a Phoenix Fire Department spokesman.

Authorities were still looking for the woman Friday night. A description of the woman wasn't available, Holmes said.

The case remains under investigation.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2...z1ywe2e2ea

[NonEntity]

I wonder what this young man might have done if the man pointing the rifle at him had claimed to be the police. Or maybe all he needed to know was that the man was pointing a rifle at him.

Oddly enough, it seems to me that I've heard that if one points a gun at you that alone can be taken as a deadly threat which may be countered by self defensive action. With all of these fictions running around impressing themselves on our minds, it's hard to keep the simple things clear at times.

- NonE

[gearheadmm]

(06-26-2012 04:33 PM)NonEntity Wrote:  ... that if one points a gun at you that alone can be taken as a deadly threat which may be countered by self defensive action.

- NonE

Police do!! Many of these storys in the NRA monthly magazine. Make sure "they" are IN your house before you shoot them! Having possession of a deadly weapon also helps.

[gearheadmm]

Quote:Doctors

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is
700,000.

(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians
per year are
120,000.
© Accidental deaths per physician
is
0.171

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of
Health and Human Services.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Now think about this:
Guns

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S.
is
80,000,000.

(Yes, that's 80 million)

(B) The number of accidental gun deaths
per year, all age groups,
is
1,500.

© The number of accidental deaths
per gun owner
is
.0000188

Statistics courtesy of FBI

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So,statistically, doctors are approximately
9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN,
BUT
Almost everyone has at least one doctor.
This means you are over 9,000 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as by a gun owner!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Please alert your friends
to this
alarming threat.

We must ban doctors
before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Out of concern for the public at large,
We withheld the statistics on
lawyers

for fear the shock would cause
people to panic and seek medical attention!

Maybe a UN treaty would help?

[NonEntity]

(07-07-2012 10:45 PM)gearheadmm Wrote:  Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'

Excellent post! (for a welcome change.)

- the Very Good NonE

[Jonathanr]

Excellent gun control, in my estimation. Why waste ammo? One or two should be enough...

[gearheadmm]

http://americannationalmilitia.com/2012/...n-july-27/

[Dionysus]

(07-07-2012 10:45 PM)gearheadmm Wrote:  Doctors

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is
700,000.

(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians
per year are
120,000.
© Accidental deaths per physician
is
0.171

I couldn't resist chiming in here. Not that anyone noticed, but I haven't posted in a while. At first, it was due to being agitated with NonE, but he's so cute you really can't stay mad at him for very long. Then I started to feel sick, and it only got worse. I noticed my leg had a rash on it that kept spreading. Eventually my entire lower leg was beet red in color and the pain was unbearable. Figuring this was one of those things I should probably get checked out, I went down to the neighborhood clinic. They gave me some namby pamby antibiotics and sent me on my way.

After not getting any better over the next few days, I broke down and went to the ER. They took one look at me and immediately admitted me, and gave me a mainline IV of the most powerful antibiotic they had. Apparently what I had was resistant to all antibiotics but this one, the big, rock candy mountain of antibiotics. I remember being in my hospital bed, and a gaggle of doctors were gathered in the corner of the room consulting with each other about my case. I couldn't hear what they were saying since they were whispering. At one point, they all stopped and turned to look at me, and just stared at me. Then they resumed whispering. I about sh*t a brick. I admit, I was really scared. Anybody would be were they in that position. After about a week in the hospital, I started to respond enough that they were able to send me home with oral antibiotics. I'm making progress, but it's slow. All told, I've been sick for a month now.

I don't think I'll ever take being healthy for granted again. So, doctors may accidentally kill their fair share of people, but in my case they saved my life. You can argue that I got lucky, but I'm not complaining. While I was laid up, the only things that sustained me were re-reading Marc's book (he only has one; I'd like to read his new one but I can't seem to find it ) and listening to the new Rush album, Clockwork Angels. There's a song on it called "The Garden." From the liner notes intro to the song:

Quote:Long Ago I Read A Story From Another Timeline about a character named Candide. He also survived a harrowing series of misadventures and tragedies, then settled on a farm near Constantinople. Listening to a philosophical rant, Candide replied, "That is all very well, but now we must tend our garden." I have now arrived at that point in my own story. There is a metaphorical garden in the acts and attitudes of a person's life, and the treasures of that garden are love and respect. I have come to realize that the gathering of love and respect-- from others and for myself-- has been the real quest of my life. "Now we must tend our garden."

From the lyrics:

Quote:The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

The treasure of a life is a measure of love and respect
The way you live, the gifts that you give
In the fullness of time
It's the only return that you expect

The future disappears into memory
With only a moment between
Forever dwells in that moment
Hope is what remains to be seen

So, I'm going to devote a lot more time and energy to tending to my own metaphorical garden, and not worry so much about freedom and tyranny and what-not, figuring that stuff will take care of itself and nothing I do will have any lasting impact. That won't leave much time for posting on this or any other message board, but I reserve the right to chime in when I feel I can contribute something of value (although that will likely be few and far between), and I'll continue to lurk like I've been doing.

So, that's it I guess. Good luck to you all. Oh, and NonE-- don't worry, I absolve you. Oh, and gearheadmm-- you may be right about that Nesara stuff. I will allow for the possibility after having my world pretty much turned upside-down. Oh, and Marc-- don't worry about what annoying insects say about you. Some people think that by tearing others down, they can feel better about themselves. And some of the same people are simply too afraid of the kind of freedom that you and others advocate. They'd rather be sold-out conformists and happy-herd members than pay the price of being truly free, which is risk.

Take it light.

Dionysus

[NonEntity]

Dudeonysus,

I'm so sorry to hear about your health issues and I wish you the very best of whatever it is that will make your life be what you want it to be. Really.

And if they ever figure out what it was and deign to tell you, I'd be curious to hear what it was that started eating your leg.

I love the quotes you included in your post. Thanks for the post and for sharing your thoughts.

May the wind be at your back.

- the Very Good NonE

[Dionysus]

^^ Thanks, man. That means a lot, believe me.

They said it was something called MRSA. I looked it up at rense.com and it's some nasty, nasty stuff, not to be trifled with.

[NonEntity]

(07-08-2012 04:46 PM)Dionysus Wrote:  ^^ Thanks, man. That means a lot, believe me.

They said it was something called MRSA. I looked it up at rense.com and it's some nasty, nasty stuff, not to be trifled with.

That's what it sounded like when you described it. Terrible, from what I understand. I wonder where you got it. Have you been cruising the hospitals for chicks or anything like that?

I don't know how much research you've done on this, but there is a particular kind of honey (applied topically) from Australia which is supposed to do the trick. You may want to look into that.

And whenever you DO get clear of this crap you know that you will have to start from scratch and TOTALLY rebuild your digestive system's biotic community. I would suggest all kinds of home made* fermented foods as well as quality probiotics. Do some research. Antibiotics are devastating to your health in general. They may (or may not) be the only choice for your issues, but once they've done their work there is a huge amount of work to be done to clean up the destruction they have left in their wake.

I wish you the very best with this.

- the Very Good NonE

* home made or certified raw and uncooked - cooking and canning kills the very things that you are eating these foods to acquire. Home made sauerkraut is one of the very easiest things I've ever made and it only takes a coupla daze. Only use organic cabbage, of course, and good quality sea salt or something similar is preferable.

[gearheadmm]

(07-08-2012 03:20 PM)Dionysus Wrote:  So, that's it I guess. Good luck to you all. Oh, and NonE-- don't worry, I absolve you. Oh, and gearheadmm-- you may be right about that Nesara stuff. I will allow for the possibility after having my world pretty much turned upside-down. Oh, and Marc-- don't worry about what annoying insects say about you. Some people think that by tearing others down, they can feel better about themselves. And some of the same people are simply too afraid of the kind of freedom that you and others advocate. They'd rather be sold-out conformists and happy-herd members than pay the price of being truly free, which is risk.

Take it light.

Dionysus

All of "That NESARA stuff" is about turning your world upside right, ITS THE BEGINNING!
http://www.miraclemineral.org/
http://eclinik.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/...ncipation/
http://www.naturalnews.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/DrLeonardHorowitz

[Dionysus]

NonE:

A google search of "MRSA" brings up MRSAsupportgroup.org as one of the first sites. I've found it to be an invaluable resource. Some of the things it recommends for treatment (garlic, turmeric, vitamin C) are things that I've been taking on a regular basis for years now. I could say "fat lot of good they did me," but I like to think that it might have been much worse had I not been taking them. So, do you recommend eating dairy to restore my "good" bacteria? I had stopped eating dairy about 5 months ago (I've been a vegetarian for 5 years now, so I guess that made me a full-fledged vegan). But I have no problem going back to eating dairy (especially cheese) temporarily.

Funny that you mentioned cruising the hospitals for chicks. At the hospital I was at, all the nurses were drop-dead good-looking. It was crazy. It was as if Hugh Hefner ran a hospital. One was even prettier than the other it seemed. One of them, from India I think, was mind-stupefyingly, jaw-droppingly beautiful-- yowza! She took a shine to me because I cracked her up with my rapier-like wit (I'm always "on," even when I'm sick). I'm allegedly married though, so I just tried to enjoy the female companionship (for a change) and leave it at that. But, oh, to be 25 again. When I left, she confided in me that she was really going to miss me, but it's possible they're all trained to say that to boost the morale of their patients. Anyway, there's no use crying over spilled mitochondria (or something like that) and sooner or later I rub everyone the wrong way (just ask my wife, or people on this message board). But I actually still have feelings for my wife, and would like to get things back to where they were before everything fell apart (one of my "gardens").

What was this thread about again? Oh yeah-- gun control. I'm all for it. No, wait-- I'm against it. Well, I'm for it, but only on the second Friday of months that start with the letter "X."

[NonEntity]

(07-09-2012 10:26 AM)Dionysus Wrote:  So, do you recommend eating dairy to restore my "good" bacteria? I had stopped eating dairy about 5 months ago (I've been a vegetarian for 5 years now, so I guess that made me a full-fledged vegan). But I have no problem going back to eating dairy (especially cheese) temporarily.

I have no idea on that one. As you may recall, I've been vegan, mostly raw and muchly organic, for quite some time. Then I discovered that by adding some animal products, butter and cod liver oil, back into my diet it cured the weird dry and cracking skin conditions that I was otherwise unable to cure, no matter what I tried. I'm coming to the conclusion that perhaps there are some things that humans need that can ONLY be obtained from animals. I chose vegan for ethical, not dietary reasons, so that is still an issue with me, but I'm moving back into animal products very gently and trying to only do so in a manner which does not cause pain to the animals involved.

Long way around, I've just begun making kefir from raw organic milk. I know some people from whom I got the kefir grains and it's quite simple to do. I'm thinking that this is another very beneficial source of biotics, but this is not based on any serious study. But I will not consume milk that has been pastuerized as I understand that makes some serious and bad changes to the constituents of milk. I also only buy raw milk, organic cheese. (It's wonderful to eat cheese again. I missed that a lot.) I don't know if you can buy raw milk in the land of Lincoln or not. I do know that there are places which ship raw milk cheeses.

One source of interesting and seemingly good medical information is Jon Barron's site, if you haven't run across him.

I don't think I've added much of value here, but maybe something is helpful. Best of luck, man.

- the Very Good NonE

[Dionysus]

^^ No, you've been most helpful and supportive-- thanks. I'm checking out jonbarron.org now. Looks like there's some awesome stuff there.