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Micah68 Wrote:That's it? You really want to live or die on that argument?

Who says that my reply was supposed to be considered as a "live or die argument". I doubt those judges care about any of the arguments "tax payers" try making.
I basically wanted to point out that your example, accidentally or intentionally, missed the issue...
Let’s step a little bit back?!

Micah68 Wrote:

Marc Stevens Wrote:As NonE already pointed out, you see no significance the agent admitted he could not prove Mr. Edwards was within the state?

The agent would also have difficulty proving that Edwards was a human being, that the earth is round, or that the sky is up.

Whether the agent would "have difficulty proving" something, is not the main issue! The main issue is - why that agent has to prove anything,...or "what" and "why" that agent "claims" and "demands" something. Got that?
--So wonder why that agent would have to prove there is a "State"? Well maybe because his/her accusation, that someone's a tax payer, is based on the "belief" that "tax payers" are subjects to "jurisdiction" due to them being born and/or being physically located in the "State" and have some income which is "taxable"? And if that agent has difficulty proving any of that, then why would I give away my money I've spent a part of my life to get? Consider this, if someone would come to you and say that you have to pay him 30% of your monthly income because you are allegedly a martian and you, in fact, live on Mars, and if you won't comply with his request he'll put you in a cage,...does that scenario look ok to you? Is it you who has to prove you're not on Mars? If you think you do, then good luck, but I don't. And if he has "difficulties proving" he's right, then why the heck should his "demand" be satisfied? ... Ahhh, of course,... because he has a gun and a cage...

--Now you tell me WHY would that agent have to prove "that the earth is round, or that the sky is up."?