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(09-21-2011 05:41 AM)zonsb Wrote:  You're one in a hundred. Thus, you're the rare exception. You've been here for about a year. Despite your plea that you want to be convinced, you're still hanging around making that plea. It's not that you're banging your head against the wall truly trying to be convinced. I mean, how disingenuous is that when a sincere person would have moved on long ago and gotten on with their life.

Albert Einstein and Niels Bohr debated the uncertainty principle for years until Einstein's death. I don't know that I've ever asked to be convinced of something. Rather, I have asked for evidence and proof, much like anyone else in a debate. I disagree with Marc's interpretations of law and we have been discussing it for a while now. I'm not sure there's anything disingenuous about having an open discussion.

Though I will admit things have been more contentious lately because I'm starting to lose faith in Marc's sincerity. Although I was always in disagreement with Marc's position, it was only after some of the accusations made in this thread by outside individuals that I began to doubt Marc's interest in helping people and started to suspect he had a greater interest in taking advantage of people.

I no longer hold this suspicion, but I still maintain that view was fair based on what was presented. Examples were given that showed Marc had attempted these techniques with regularity for years and had his rear thoroughly handed to him in the courtroom. With such strong examples of the ineffectiveness of the techniques and few examples of real success, I think it's only right to doubt the sincerity of a person who continues to sell questionable legal tips.

I no longer hold this view (at least not very strongly). I think his goals are admirable, but I still think his methods are wrong.

(09-21-2011 05:41 AM)zonsb Wrote:  That you have so much hate in you is your problem -- not mine. Deal with it.

Is that a demand? Should I consider myself threatened if I do not obey your order?

(09-21-2011 05:41 AM)zonsb Wrote:  I never said you were agent for the state. Why do you bring that up? Are you just a student; a regular guy; have a wife and children and take your son to his little league ball games? That's in reference to this commentary. "It occurs to me that a conman/fraudster will nonchalantly profess to be just a guy with a wife and kids that goes to his son’s little league ball games. He has a false appearance to keep up." in the comment section.

I do not have a wife or a child, and I think it's a bit egotistical to quote yourself.

I was just trying to dispel some of the speculation because you seemed a bit paranoid about my origins and intentions. I thought it would be a relief for you to know I'm not some kind of conman/fraudster sent by the state to destroy the commodity that is Marc Stevens. I'm just a guy who likes talking law and visits this board as a hobby when I have a little free time. I understand that although this is merely a hobby for me, it's Marc's livelihood, so I try not to get too serious when I'm here, although that changes if I smell a scam. This is one of the reasons I have refrained from calling into the radio show. What would happen if I called into the show and completely defeated Marc's arguments? He'd lose his loyal fan base and the successful career he's built, and then where would we be? I'd have to make Realskinny.net, start feeding you guys motion templates, and defend against my own objectors. I prefer to remain one of Marc's objectors, at least for the time being.

Believe it. Or don't. It makes no difference to me.