WAKE UP! - Suggested Reading, Viewing, Doing to Learn the Basics

[Neo]

I'll expand this list over time:

Viewing:

Many are rentable on DVD via Netflix.com, BlockBuster, etc..

TV series

Deadwood
Firefly / Serenity

Movies

The Matrix
V for Vendetta

Documentaries:

PBS Frontline: The Plea

Bill Moyers: Buying the War, another on Jack Abramoff


Doing:

Visiting prisons and interviewing violent criminals that have no remorse.
Watching TV / the 'net, and listening to violent politicians that have no remorse.


Reading:

Adventures in Legal Land - Marc Stevens

Constitution of No Authority - Lysander Spooner
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free online copy of "For a New Liberty" here:
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<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://praxeology.net/unblog03-03.htm#01">http://praxeology.net/unblog03-03.htm#01</a><!-- m --> (open letter to those in the "peace movement")

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-- G.L. wrote: You might consult David Friedman's book The Machinery of Freedom. As for examples of really minimalist government, Rothbard cites some instances during American colonial history when governments were nearly nonexistent for years at a time and the people did just fine. As I recall, volume I of his Conceived in Liberty covers that.  Truly religious people should reject coercion in principle and that means rejecting the organized coercion called government.

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THE VOLUNTARY CITY: Choice, Community, and Civil Society
Edited by David T. Beito, Peter Gordon, Alexander Tabarrok Foreword by Paul Johnson
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The Underground History of American Education - John Taylor Gatto
(see reviews by Heidi on this forum under "School Dirty Work" threads)

[Lummox3]

Doing -

Go to a tax office and ask some simple questions.

Go to a bank and ask some simple questions.

Talk to a policeman and see how they view the world.

Join a forum where there is no hope in hell of anyone believing you and see if you can get anywhere with them.

Start an organisation and use anarchist principles within it. I did this and found (surprisingly) that minarchists have a point, at least at the beginning before everyone gets used to the idea and power is balanced. I am the most highly regarded of the rulers we don't have, if you get the point.

Watch what the people around you do for a week or two, ignore what they say completely. When I did this I found that one of the people I always thought was a pain in the ass and rude was actually a decent human being and that a hell of a lot of people I knew weren't actually all that nice but made the right noises.

listen to people for a week, ignore what they do. Act on what they tell you as though it's completely true. See where it gets you. Just doing it as a thought exercise will bring some faces to mind and a "aaarggh!" sound will go off. Guess what? Ditch those people if you can.

Read the dice man. Give it a go for a week or so.
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Put yourself at risk in a public place. See how the average person reacts. Do this in a city. Then do it in a small town. Finally notice that there is no difference in the way children react anywhere, but adults in cities will let you stay at risk because their instincts are muted. Think about what that means when public policy is made by adults in cities.

Acquire some basic medical training.

Learn to physically defend yourself with and without weapons. No telling when you might get locked up, and who you will get locked up with.

Learn how to project various states into your environment. Sometimes you might want to appear calm, resolute, polite. Other times you might want to appear as though you are a tough cookie or a soft touch, a genius or an idiot.

Learn how to approach strangers and get along with them, make them laugh etc. At some point your life might depend upon your ability to blend in quickly. Besides, meeting new people is fun and you always learn something.

Reading -

Structure of magic 1+2

The Dice Man

[Neo]

What are they waking up from and waking up to if successful in doing all you suggest?

[Free Radical]

Lummox3 Wrote:listen to people for a week... Act on what they tell you as though it's completely true. See where it gets you.

Quote:Read the dice man. Give it a go for a week or so.

Okay, I acted on what you told me by flipping a coin to decide whether to read that book. It didn't get me far. ???

[Lummox3]

Neo Wrote:What are they waking up from and waking up to if successful in doing all you suggest?

Would you like a line by line account or just a general overview?

Quote:Okay, I acted on what you told me by flipping a coin to decide whether to read that book. It didn't get me far. Huh?

The answer I rolled to this is 17!

[Neo]

Both a general overview and line by line account, including questions to be asked of cops, at tax offices, banks, etc., and anticipated answers based on your experiences and or predictions.  This is because some won't do what you suggested, or part of it, but not all of it, but will read all you write here, and take your word for it, being too lazy or fearful themselves.  For example, the types who haven't or never will read AiLL, despite their persistance in being here doing Q & A.

[damageinc.]

Quote:  from Neo
Doing:

Visiting prisons and interviewing violent criminals that have no remorse

Go to your local cop shop, you have a 100% chance of interviewing  violent criminals.  ;D

Quote: from Lummox3

Talk to a policeman and see how they view the world.

Be VERY carful, exercise caution! Questions can and will get you tazered or shot. :-\

[NonEntity]

Neo Wrote:Both a general overview and line by line account, including questions to be asked of cops, at tax offices, banks, etc., and anticipated answers based on your experiences and or predictions.  This is because some won't do what you suggested, or part of it, but not all of it, but will read all you write here, and take your word for it, being too lazy or fearful themselves.  For example, the types who haven't or never will read AiLL, despite their persistance in being here doing Q & A.

This reminds me of a conversation I had fairly recently with a friend of mine who is a lawyer.  He finds my ideas of anarchism totally beyond the pale, and is constantly talking about how the only reason why society works at all is because there are laws defining how we should behave.  (!!!)  I suggested to him that, as Marc said, "Law is only an opinion backed by a gun."  He would have none of it.  So I asked him what a law was.  He pointed out that our legislators created them.  (This must make them holy or some such crap.)  I then asked him who our legislators were.  People we voted into office.  And how are laws created?  Well, the legislators create them and then they vote on them and then they become laws.  Okay... so they are opinions of the legislators and they are backed up by guns, right?  NO!!! They are LAWS!    We went through this dance step by step, just like at the Arthur Murray Dance Studio, for several iterations and he still could not apply simple logic to the cells in his cranial cavity. 

If it weren't so pathetic it would be funny.

- NonE

[eye2i2hear]

Suggested* reading: Butler Shaffer  (for starters, here & here & here...)

*["suggested" here tempts me back to my Statist-think... where this should be mandatory... (forgive me Mr. Shaffer) ;D ]

[Lummox3]

Neo Wrote:Both a general overview and line by line account, including questions to be asked of cops, at tax offices, banks, etc., and anticipated answers based on your experiences and or predictions.  This is because some won't do what you suggested, or part of it, but not all of it, but will read all you write here, and take your word for it, being too lazy or fearful themselves.  For example, the types who haven't or never will read AiLL, despite their persistance in being here doing Q & A.

Some of this I will do because it looks to be a decent idea, some of I won't because it would defeat the purpose. If experential learning could be acquired through reading, then the state education system would work.

Sadly though, it will have to be tommorrow.

[Neo]

Take all the time you want.  I can't wait a month if need be.

[meant to type can not can't -- see later part of this thread re: this -- was originally thinking "I can't wait to see it."  Then backed up to avoid "putting pressure" without fixing the beginning of the sentence.]

[Lummox3]

Neo Wrote:Take all the time you want.  I can't wait a month if need be.

On seeing this, my first instinct is to never do it at all. I wonder why that could be. I'll have a think on what exactly makes me feel so uncomfortable and if I work it out I'll come back to you.

[Neo]

As you wish.  I can promise, however, I'd read all you write.  I suspect some others would too.

[damageinc.]

Malinson Wrote:What value is all those books and movies if I don’t get any value from those that do?

Well, I am truly sorry you get no value from "us". I guess we'll see you later huh, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out  :'(

[damageinc.]

Malinson Wrote:You have only yourself to blame.

Blame myself cuz you didn't get value from me. I feel so guilty! :'(
Well, you all know the old saying. You can led a horse to water, but you can't make'm drink, or was that think? Anyways Yep. ;D