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11-17-2011, 02:36 PM
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Very interesting excerpt that has some scientific research and analysis supporting what the title suggests. Click the source link to read the rest. The attribute described/explained likely predates the bicameral mind by about a million years.
Source: Why Language Is All Thumbs Quote:Why Language Is All ThumbsBold and underline emphasis mine. Excerpt is in the footnotes and is the Forward, written by Ray Kurzweil, for the book, Thumbs, Toes, and Tears. Quote:And of course we have that all-important opposable appendage (the thumb) that enabled us to take the “what if ” experiments in our minds and actually try them out. We were able to imagine tying a stone to a stick and then actually build the tool. One might point out that a chimpanzee’s hand looks similar to ours. But the devil is in the details, and a chimp’s hand is just not designed well enough to fashion tools. Some people maintain that chimpanzees are also a tool-making species, and, yes, a chimp can grab a stick and poke it into the ground, but its ability to do this is too clumsy to enable a sustainable process of technology improvement. The pivot points in a chimp’s hands are not in the right place for a power grip or for fine motor coordination. Homo sapiens, on the other hand, were capable of carefully winding the twine around the stone and the stick to create a useful tool, and then using that tool to create the next generation of tools. -- The thought of how far the human race would have advanced absent initiatory force staggers the imagination. THE POINT: Unlike the government thief, a common thief doesn't claim his "craft" is honest. Lawyer-like dishonesty a point: The common thief is honest when he tells you he's robbing you. |
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11-17-2011, 03:39 PM
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RE: Why Language Is All Thumbs
(11-17-2011 02:36 PM)zonsb Wrote:Quote:And of course we have that all-important opposable appendage (the thumb) that enabled us to take the “what if ” experiments in our minds and actually try them out. We were able to imagine tying a stone to a stick and then actually build the tool. One might point out that a chimpanzee’s hand looks similar to ours. But the devil is in the details, and a chimp’s hand is just not designed well enough to fashion tools. [thinking There's something about this that seems a bit cart before the horse, or maybe cart beside the horse --at least from the context as an excerpt. First, what of the plethora of products that are way beyond the capability of thumbed-hands? Weren't those "'what if' experiments in our minds" as well? And as folks got around to them, perhaps they'd have gotten to such equally overcoming having non-opposing appendages? Which quickly winds back to my second and last bit: it seems less significant that it's thumbed hands capability and more significantly intelligence+appendages. I'm recalling here the amazing videos made of folks with handicaps (the equivalents of "thumb-less-ness"?) and the amazing feats they achieve. e.g. [not to even get into the use of the term "design" (rather than, say, evolved) and the likes of hands...] [/thinking while typing] _______________________________
If you wish to communicate with me, first define your terms. ~Voltaire The problem with communication is the illusion that it has occurred. ~George Bernard Shaw ... |
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11-17-2011, 04:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-17-2011 04:32 PM by zonsb.)
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RE: Why Language Is All Thumbs
(11-17-2011 03:39 PM)eye2i2hear Wrote: There's something about this that seems a bit cart before the horse, or maybe cart beside the horse --at least from the context as an excerpt. http://www.kurzweilai.net/why-language-is-all-thumbs Wrote:It was while they were performing this routine experiment that they noticed something odd. When a macaque watched a researcher’s hand pick up an object and bring it close to his mouth, the sensors connected to the monkey’s brain indicated that neurons in its F5 region were firing. They didn’t activate when the monkeys simply saw the objects sitting there, only—and this was what was so unusual—when the monkey watched researchers pick them up, or when the monkeys themselves picked them up.Bold emphasis mine. -- The thought of how far the human race would have advanced absent initiatory force staggers the imagination. THE POINT: Unlike the government thief, a common thief doesn't claim his "craft" is honest. Lawyer-like dishonesty a point: The common thief is honest when he tells you he's robbing you. |
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