ignorance, ignore, to nescience

[eye2i2hear]

In an earlier thread I presented the etymology of the word ignorant (see below).
In contemporary usage there is a potentially missed opportunity with the word.

In essence, the (obvious?) root of the word ignorance is the word ignore. To ignore, in contemporary usage, implies a willed intention; to "pay no attention to". i.e. the knowledge is there, the evidence is available, the facts are there, I just don't want to hear/see it.

I offer today for consideration, the word: nescient. I find it a keen (and "official"! woo-woo, bonafide!) word to use instead of the (presently) popular (misguided) ignorant.

The Online Etymology Dictionary Wrote:nescient.
1620s, from L. nescientem (nom. nesciens), prp. of nescire, from ne "not" + scire "to know" (see science).

science. c.1300, "knowledge (of something) acquired by study," also "a particular branch of knowledge," from O.Fr. science, from L. scientia "knowledge," from sciens (gen. scientis), prp. of scire "to know,"

--http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=nescient&allowed_in_frame=0

I find it especially significant in that it easily lends to the contemporary word science (contrasted with re`ligion).
Again, just like the word ignorance should remind of to ignore.

[why the originator went with 'ne'science, rather than like with 'a'theist, well, doG only NosE; Romans and Greeks, what can ya say?! asciencearant... i like it!]

Thus, to take liberty with NonE's original post regarding the word ignorant:

(02-28-2012 11:59 AM)NonEntity Wrote:  Hmm. Never heard this perspective before.

I consider myself ignorant nescient of things that I don't know about, not because I have CHOSEN to not know about them, but simply because I've not yet had the time, exposure or [corrected typo] inclination to come to know about them.

Nescient: The Wurd.
Please call me nescient, 'cause my goal is to never be ignorant(ignoring the science, ignoring the evidence, ignoring the facts)!

Mileage may vary~

--NonReadersDigestIncreaseYourWordPower2i (the artist formerly known as IgnoreaNus2)

==For convenience and continuities sake, here's a repost of the linked discussion:

eye2i2hear here' Wrote:  

eye2i2hear' Wrote:  I personally wish the word ignorant would be used towards it's etymological, obvious origin, rather than how it's used popularly and/or insultingly; it's root is "ignore" which is "to willfully turn away from or to turn a blind eye and deaf ear to"; it's not like there aren't a plethora of other words to convey retard, stupid, idiot, etc

(02-28-2012 11:59 AM)NonEntity Wrote:  Hmm. Never heard this perspective before.

I consider myself ignorant of things that I don't know about, not because I have CHOSEN to not know about them, but simply because I've not yet had the time, exposure or [corrected typo] inclination to come to know about them.

I take it you are saying that I'm wrong in this perspective on this word?

First, no, Jane, you ignorant slut. I don't wish to say you are "wrong". Rather, that you might value this usage higher!

While it's anecdotal, in my realm(s), I've never heard one said to be ignoring someone to simply be uninforming, or not-knowing themselves about something or someone.

Thus, as I hear it, to ignore indicates a willful intention. Think also of one "ignoring" and compare that with thinking of one "ignorant"? Thus, the gnosis (knowledge) is there, they are just, well, ignoring it.

Don't ignore this now, ok...

Quote:ignorant (adj.)
late 14c., from O.Fr. ignorant (14c.), from L. ignorantia, from ignorantem (nom. ignorans), prp. of ignorare "not to know, to be unacquainted; mistake, misunderstand; take no notice of, pay no attention to," from assimilated form of in- “not, opposite of” (see in- (1)) + Old Latin gnarus "aware, acquainted with" (cf. Classical L. noscere "to know," notus "known"), from Proto-Latin suffixed form *gno-ro-, related to gnoscere "to know" (see know). Form influenced by L. ignotus "unknown." Cf. also uncouth. Colloquial sense of "ill-mannered" first attested 1886. As a noun meaning "ignorant person" from mid-15c.

ignore (v.)
1610s, "not to know, to be ignorant of," from Fr. ignorer "be unaware of," from L. ignorare "not to know, . Sense of "pay no attention to" first recorded 1801 (Barnhart says "probably a dictionary word"), and not common until c.1850. Related: Ignored; ignoring.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?sour...h=ignorant

Otay, first observation regarding the etymology is to note that the "pay no attention to" under ignore is said to be "late" circa 1800s. But one gets to ask if early on it became skewed and at the later date got more back on track? This isn't easily provable, for me, but looking at the earlier take under ignorance, it's gleanible that it could have easily had in it's origin the sense of not knowing + willful and intentional.

Regardless, in contemporary usage, to ignore and ignoring carries the willful, intentional sense (and seldom if ever the uninformed sense), thus supports my proposition for using ignorance and ignorant in the same sense. No? Cripes, eliminate as much cognitive dissonance/mental conflict as we can?! (mentally ill as sum are).
And as one all too familiar with the other end, how apropos is it to hear/think "ignore-rant"?! :@ [fingers in ears, saying "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LAH!!!" here optional]

(again noting, it's not like we don't have a well of other words to draw from in place of the word ignorant).

'Course, hell, we have the words anarchy and religion [and the state] to contend with, why the hell would we tackle yet another...

We cool~kewel

[NonEntity]

I grok!

- NonE (nescientacious slut)

[notavoter]

Careful NonE, your head may explode due to excessive grokking.

[eye2i2hear]

which head...?


(the real question being, what makes us think either of such is even in working order, much less capable of explosion... )


hmpf 2i

:rolleyes:

[eye2i2hear]

Quote:I'm not going to censor my self to comfort your ignorance.

I am not going to ignore my self to comfort your censure.