TSA Body Scan & Pat Down

[holipsism]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_3CyI2Ni9E

If the world is a prison, Americans are the bitch and the government is the Daddy they give the ass up to for protection from general population. :bootyshake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBL3ux1o0tM

The American people have spoken; there is no liberty they will not sacrifice for a false sense of security. LONG LIVE THE TSA! :mad:

Holip :frobro:

[Dionysus]

Papers, please. I said, PAPERS, PLEASE!!!

[Dionysus]

Here's a good article:

Quote:Tip of the spear
by Simon Black November 23, 2010
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Military tacticians and historians often make use of the term ‘tip of the spear.’ It refers to a combat force that is used to puncture the enemy’s initial lines of defense, to be quickly followed by concentrated forces which destroy any remaining threat.

Tactically, the tip of the spear is a bit of a blitzkrieg– an unexpected onslaught of firepower and destruction that takes the enemy by surprise, scatters his resources, and fractures his morale.

I’m convinced that what we’re seeing right now from the US Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is the tip of the spear in the government’s battle for increased control of the public.

The groundwork has been laid for years– legislation empowering the TSA has gradually eroded civil liberties to the point that airports in the United States have now become ‘no rights’ zones. “Please remove your shoes” has now become “Take out your prosthetic breast so I can check it for explosives.”

Passengers who show up to an airport in the United States are now given two options: (a) go through the radiation bath [don't worry, the government says it's safe...] and let the TSA see you naked, or (b) let the TSA thugs grope you and fondle your children’s genitals.

This is not enhanced security protocol, this is a systematic desensitization to government intrusion. The idea is to get people used to new procedures, then continue to add more layers of government control.

Certainly, people will complain. They will be outraged… YouTube videos will abound of TSA agents stroking women’s breasts and disrobing 5-year old boys. The government will hold firm, though, responding that the tactics are necessary and that they will ‘look into’ egregious violations.

To be clear, some of the tactics are designed to be scaled back as concessions. It’s like turning up the volume from 0 to 10… everyone starts screaming that it’s too loud, so the government turns it down to 8. People think, “ah, that’s not as bad…” and eventually become accustomed to the noise.

In time, the government turns it up from 8 to 20. People pour into the streets again, protesting until the government turns it down from 20 to 15. People once again become accustomed to the noise as the new normal. This cycle escalates until no one can remember the sound of silence any longer.

It’s fairly easy to do– there will always be politicians and bureaucrats who can invent stories about innocuous white powders and men in caves that scare the daylights out of people.

Similarly, there will always be long lists of sociopaths, perverts, and pedophiles who are attracted to a job description that authorizes them to grope, fondle, humiliate, and intimidate others.

And of course, there will always be spineless nincompoops who stand by without protest as their wives and children get violated by government agents… and then rationalize their inaction as a necessary sacrifice for safety.

When I was in Bali the other day, I was flipping through channels on the TV and saw Mike Huckabee interviewing Whoopi Goldberg on FoxNews. “Now there’s a couple of intellectual luminaries,” I thought to myself. Whoopi wasted no time in summing up her intellect when she had this to say of the TSA’s tactics:

“… if it’s going to keep me from getting blown out of the sky, you can check anything you want; and if you feel something you like and squeeze it… what am I going to do? [acknowledging laughter from Huckabee]”

This coming from a woman who used to be a prostitute speaking to a man who thinks the earth is 5,000 years old.

The fact is that body scanners are as ineffective at threat detection as metal detectors. Furthermore, the government has ruled out the idea of scanning air or seaborne cargo… because, clearly, cargo would never be a target. The little old lady with the prosthetic hip? Definitely. Cargo? No chance.

These tactics are not about security… they’re about submission, obedience, and cultivating the slave mentality– that people should be afraid of their government and happily yield to authority without question or hesitation.

To be fair, it’s not just in the US; I woke up this morning to a front page photo in the Wall Street Journal of a machine gun toting policeman in Germany cruising a passenger train because of some hackneyed terror threat. Much of the world is living in a similar state.

This is the tip of the spear, and what comes next can only be worse. I don’t say this to stir emotion or create a sense of panic, but rather to appeal to reason:

The threat is very clear– we need not fear men in caves or silly powders, but rather the malignant intentions of our governments and the perverse men who are attracted to its works. If these aren’t the clearest signs of a police state, I don’t know what else could be.

I’m really interested to hear from you about this– what have you experienced during recent travels? Are these offenses -finally- enough to make you consider leaving? If not, where is the limit??

[NonEntity]

Dionysus Wrote:Here's a good article:

Quote:Tip of the spear
by Simon Black November 23, 2010
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

...

To be clear, some of the tactics are designed to be scaled back as concessions. It’s like turning up the volume from 0 to 10… everyone starts screaming that it’s too loud, so the government turns it down to 8. People think, “ah, that’s not as bad…” and eventually become accustomed to the noise.

In time, the government turns it up from 8 to 20. People pour into the streets again, protesting until the government turns it down from 20 to 15. People once again become accustomed to the noise as the new normal. This cycle escalates until no one can remember the sound of silence any longer.

...

This reminds me of a wonderful book written by a wonderful guy, Robert Higgs, an economic historian (and a guy from a humble background in Oklahoma, not an Ivory Tower - Silver Spoon fantasy world offspring): Crisis and Leviathan. In that book he pours over history and shows exactly what the gentleman above posits. Higgs refers to it as a ratchet system, where a crisis is created or used to ramp up the role of government, and then the ratchet locks in and when the threat abates the government only pulls back a small amount, resting on the ratchet's pawl awaiting the next crisis for more upward movement.

Mises.org Wrote:Crisis and Leviathan

January 27, 2009 by Peter G. Klein

If you’ve never read Bob Higgs’s brilliant Crisis and Leviathan (Oxford, 1987), you’re missing one of the great social-science books of our time. Higgs demonstrates, in meticulous detail, how the growth of the American state in the twentieth century has followed a regular pattern: a national or international “crisis,” real or imagined, followed by a massive slate of new government programs supposedly designed to alleviate the crisis, programs that are never eliminated or even scaled back after the alleged crisis has abated. The nature of government is to grow, but its growth is normally constrained by public opinion. Government takes advantage of — and sometimes manufactures — “crisis” situations in which those constraints can be lifted. A critical ingredient is fear: state functionaries and their allies in academia and the media work hard to create a climate of panic among the public, a sense that only the state can avert a grave calamity.

- NonE

[Dionysus]

Thanks. I'll check it out.

[DFMBro]

hello folks

sorry for posting this so late, but just signed up today after following Marc's videos for a bit.

if you view the first video from the OP, as well as if you have watched any other newscast, every reporter starts with the same script...."never really took off".

what they fail to acknowledge is that practically every airport turned off the body scanners. with no scanners, you clearly have no ability to "opt-out".
since no opt-out, there is no enhanced pat down.
since no enhanced pat down, the lines go quicker.

observe this news report from san diego, ca on opt-out day.
this is me folks!! Joe Bourgeois

my intent, while wearing my shirt, was to use my 1st amendment to express my 4th amendment by:

1) going thru the tsa checkpoint in san diego
2) going thru the tsa checkpoint in phoenix.

please note what the news report DIDN'T COVER upon my return

1) the scanners were not used at this terminal
2) due to a delay, i was unable to go thru the tsa checkpoint in phoenix
and, most importantly-
3) the detailed reason of the why i almost got pulled off the plane.

the flight was scheduled for a 5:45 departure, delayed til 6;00
everyone was on the plane by about 5:58.
at about 6:10, the pilot announced a "monor mechanical delay..
at 6:20, door closed and we left the gate.

as we were taxing to the runway, a flight attendant came to me, put her hand on my shoulder and said,

"you really got the tsa mad at you. 3 tsa suits tried to get just one of the flight crew to say that your shirt was offensive so they could pull you off the plane. we told them we didnt have a problem with your shirt and to go away".

thats right folks, the tsa delayed the flight for 20 minutes
amazing personal experience.

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have a great day

[chantalJ]

A mom from Tennessee was arrested Saturday for objecting when Transportation Security Administration workers tried to pat down her daughter. The female was detained for disorderly conduct after she became belligerent. This incident occurred after the Transportation Security Administration altered its procedure concerning the pat down of kids last month. I found this here: Woman arrested for scene when TSA attempt to pat down her daughter